{"id":1288,"date":"2024-02-08T18:57:13","date_gmt":"2024-02-08T14:57:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/yellowweb.top\/?p=1288"},"modified":"2024-02-09T11:14:34","modified_gmt":"2024-02-09T07:14:34","slug":"100-klikov-i-v-blek","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/yellowweb.top\/en\/100-klikov-i-v-blek\/","title":{"rendered":"100 Clicks and a Blacklist?"},"content":{"rendered":"<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Intro by Yellow<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It's an article <a href=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150904002359\/http:\/\/traffuck.ru\/2015\/07\/03\/100-clicks-and-black-list\/\">that I pulled from the web archive<\/a> from the defunct Traffuck blog. I believe that despite the fact that it was published in 2015, its topic will be relevant ALWAYS, and the question: \"<strong>After how many clicks with no leads, disable the ad\/adset\/campaign\/feed\/zone\/placement, etc.?<\/strong>\"It's going to be around arbitrage chats forever. That's why I have the nerve to copy it to my blog and slightly format it + chew it up (<em>rerank<\/em>). <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If you are the author of this information and would like me to link to your resources, please contact me <a href=\"https:\/\/t.me\/dvygolov\">in a PM on Telegram<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Author's Intro<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I often see the question: after how many clicks (and no leads) a site should be added to the blacklist. Below I will give <strong>unambiguous answer<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">What we need to start from<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ol class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>First, we need to calculate the minimum envelope we need, below which we will pour in zero or minus (<em>for those of you who are particularly stoned, not enough of a plus.<\/em>). That is, we want our traffic to convert no lower than a certain value.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>How accurate a blacklist we want and how much budget to spend. More on this below.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Required envelope<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Envelope = the ratio of the number of requests (leads) to the number of visits. Hereinafter in the formulas we will denote it as CR.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Usually not every application is approved by the affiliate and paid, but with a large amount of traffic, we have a constant rate of uprooting (approval) of applications.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For one application we get X amount of money, where <strong>X = payout * upside<\/strong>. For example, the payout we have 500 rubles, and appruv 70%. On average for 1 application we get 500*0.70 = 350 rubles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We will also need 2 more concepts: CPC (cost per click) = average price per visit (click, visitor) and EPC (earning per click) = earnings per click.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>EPC = payout * uptake * CR<\/strong>. For example, with a stable envelope of 1%, a payout of 500 rubles and 70% appruse we have EPC = 500*0.70*0.01 = 3.5 rubles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Let's say we have traffic with CPC = 2.5 rubles and we want an EPC of 3 rubles or more. What should the CR be?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>CR = EPC \/ (payout * upside)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It turns out that in our case the required envelope = 3 rubles \/ (500 rubles * 0.70) = 0.86%.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Accuracy and probabilities<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What is the probability of getting a lead from a single click? With a stable conversion rate of 0.86%, the probability will be 0.86%.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Okay, what's the probability of getting at least one lead from three clicks? From a hundred clicks? If someone thought 86%, they can roll their lip!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>A little bit of theory: <\/strong>to obtain the probability of the origin of at least one event out of many, independent of each other (<em>and each application is independent of the others.<\/em>), we must subtract the probability of the absence of such events from one.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The probability of getting a lead from one click is 0.86%. And the probability of not getting one is 99.14%.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The likelihood of not getting a lead from three clicks: <div id=\"imgData\" style=\"z-index: 2147483647 !important; overflow: auto; clear: both; float: none; width: auto; height: auto; position: absolute; color: white; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 10, 0.8); font: 1rem Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; padding: 2px 5px; border-radius: 5px; visibility: hidden; opacity: 0;\"><span id=\"imgData-name\">quicklatex.com-33fdb74f0f2f4f21a4c340dd353b250a_l3<\/span>.<span id=\"imgData-extension\">png<\/span><span id=\"imgData-width\">321<\/span>\u00d7<span id=\"imgData-height\">321<\/span>px<span id=\"imgData-perfSize\">19<\/span><\/div><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"19\" width=\"321\" src=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150904002359im_\/http:\/\/traffuck.ru\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-33fdb74f0f2f4f21a4c340dd353b250a_l3.png\" alt=\"99.14\\%\\cdot99.14\\%\\cdot99.14\\% = 97.44\\%\">. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From a hundred clicks: <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"25\" width=\"206\" src=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150904002359im_\/http:\/\/traffuck.ru\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-acddea6e2a0089a20367a2f3bda5314f_l3.png\" alt=\"(99,14\\%)^{100} = 42,16\\%\">.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That is, with a 0.86% conversion rate from three clicks we will get a lead with a probability of 2.56%, and from a hundred clicks we will get a lead with a probability of 57.84%. For those who had 86% in the beginning, <strong>especially emphasize:<\/strong> <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"22\" width=\"202\" src=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150904002359im_\/http:\/\/traffuck.ru\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-4149b9d8ad205ba707754694cf0e09e6_l3.png\" alt=\"57,84\\% \\neq 100\\cdot0,86\\%\">.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Counting clicks<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Our mission:<\/strong> determine how many clicks we will get at least one lead with a certain probability. From the previous calculations we can derive a general formula. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The probability of getting at least one lead from n clicks: <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"23\" width=\"171\" src=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150904002359im_\/http:\/\/traffuck.ru\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-6f76482541ae958731dec7dafc00c18b_l3.png\" alt=\"p = 1-(1-CR)^n\">.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Let's assume that to test it, we need to run traffic that with a probability of 90% will generate a lead. If there is a lead, we continue to run it. No - the site is blacklisted (<em>disable ads\/adset\/placement, etc.<\/em>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Let's rewrite the formula slightly:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150904002359im_\/http:\/\/traffuck.ru\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-5cf73f5bb89e41dd07a231f463c1c2af_l3.png\" alt=\"1-p = (1-CR)^n\" title=\"Rendered by QuickLaTeX.com.\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Let's apply logarithmization and get:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"34\" width=\"117\" src=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150904002359im_\/http:\/\/traffuck.ru\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-c63746e4c5f6d0563e3733dad8efa3e9_l3.png\" alt=\"n = \\frac{ln (1-p)}{ln (1-CR)}\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Note to Yellow: <em>If you are interested in the details of how one formula made a second one, ask ChatGPT, they will tell you everything.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That is, with a 0.86% conversion rate, the site will yield at least one lead with a probability of 90% at 267 clicks (using the formula <div id=\"imgData\" style=\"z-index: 2147483647 !important; overflow: auto; clear: both; float: none; width: auto; height: auto; position: absolute; color: white; background-color: rgba(0, 0, 10, 0.8); font: 1rem Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; padding: 2px 5px; border-radius: 5px; visibility: hidden; opacity: 0;\"><span id=\"imgData-name\">quicklatex.com-06559f0cf1dabcf5f2e80fec150f181a_l3<\/span><\/div><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" height=\"34\" width=\"137\" src=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20150904002359im_\/http:\/\/traffuck.ru\/wp-content\/ql-cache\/quicklatex.com-06559f0cf1dabcf5f2e80fec150f181a_l3.png\" alt=\"n = \\frac{ln(1-0,90)}{ln(1-0,0086)}\">). Note that CR here is not in percent, but in parts of one.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">By convention, we have CPC = 2.5 rubles. Thus (2.5*267), we need to spend 667 rubles to determine with probability 90% that the site is unusable.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Most likely, 90% will be too precise and too costly for you. For example, for 80% probability will get only 186 clicks and 465 rubles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Examples<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>a site with a conversion rate of 1% will give a lead for 300 clicks with a probability of 95.1%,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>a site with a conversion rate of 5% will yield a lead for 50 clicks with a probability of 92.3%,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>a site with a conversion rate of 3% will yield a lead for 20 clicks with a probability of 45.6%,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>if a site has 100 clicks and no leads, the conversion is below 2% with a probability of 86.7%,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>If the site has 100 clicks and no leads, the conversion is below 1% with a probability of 63.4% - ie IMHO 100 clicks with the desired conversion of 1% to add the site in the black, not enough,<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>if a site has 200 clicks and no leads, the conversion is below 1% with a probability of 86.6%.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I recommend counting with a probability of 80-90%. 95% is already pretty accurate, but you need a lot of budget. When there is already a lot of traffic, you can take 80% or less.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.google.ru\/search?q=log+(1+-+0%2C80)+%2F+log+(1+-+0%2C012)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Template for determining the number of clicks needed in google calculator<\/a>&nbsp;(1.2% envelope, 80% probability are scored in the formula)<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A short look at early warning signs in paid traffic when a small amount of traffic already points to a deeper problem.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1289,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"inline_featured_image":false,"site-sidebar-layout":"default","site-content-layout":"","ast-site-content-layout":"default","site-content-style":"default","site-sidebar-style":"default","ast-global-header-display":"","ast-banner-title-visibility":"","ast-main-header-display":"","ast-hfb-above-header-display":"","ast-hfb-below-header-display":"","ast-hfb-mobile-header-display":"","site-post-title":"","ast-breadcrumbs-content":"","ast-featured-img":"","footer-sml-layout":"","ast-disable-related-posts":"","theme-transparent-header-meta":"","adv-header-id-meta":"","stick-header-meta":"","header-above-stick-meta":"","header-main-stick-meta":"","header-below-stick-meta":"","astra-migrate-meta-layouts":"set","ast-page-background-enabled":"default","ast-page-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"ast-content-background-meta":{"desktop":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"tablet":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""},"mobile":{"background-color":"var(--ast-global-color-5)","background-image":"","background-repeat":"repeat","background-position":"center center","background-size":"auto","background-attachment":"scroll","background-type":"","background-media":"","overlay-type":"","overlay-color":"","overlay-opacity":"","overlay-gradient":""}},"footnotes":""},"categories":[34,36],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1288","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-tipsntricks","category-finances"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/yellowweb.top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1288","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/yellowweb.top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/yellowweb.top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yellowweb.top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yellowweb.top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1288"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/yellowweb.top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1288\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1291,"href":"https:\/\/yellowweb.top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1288\/revisions\/1291"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yellowweb.top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1289"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/yellowweb.top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1288"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yellowweb.top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1288"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/yellowweb.top\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1288"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}